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Post by cxa0897 on Nov 22, 2016 10:56:56 GMT 10
I've been browsing Craigslist and cycle trader lately and am really struggling to find some cheapo beater dual sports. Why do these things hold value so well? Even 20 year old bikes are listed for 2k when a new one is 5 or 6k.
The tech is cheap, the bikes are simple, it just doesn't make sense to me. I'd love to get something to beat the shit out of on some dirt roads and some sand just to have some fun and build some new skills. Seems anything that's street legal is just so much more expensive though
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Post by shock on Nov 22, 2016 12:53:29 GMT 10
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Post by Camo on Nov 22, 2016 20:54:26 GMT 10
I've been browsing Craigslist and cycle trader lately and am really struggling to find some cheapo beater dual sports. Why do these things hold value so well? Even 20 year old bikes are listed for 2k when a new one is 5 or 6k. The tech is cheap, the bikes are simple, it just doesn't make sense to me. I'd love to get something to beat the shit out of on some dirt roads and some sand just to have some fun and build some new skills. Seems anything that's street legal is just so much more expensive though You guys dont get the street legal choices we get here hey. Thats pretty piss poor. But what you're planning on doing or what's available in terms of type of terrain/trails will really help nail down some choices. Do you guys get klr650's, dr650's, drz400's or even xr650's or xr600's? I'm guessing you're after a big single thumper to ride a mix of tar and dirt? |
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Post by cxa0897 on Nov 22, 2016 21:44:41 GMT 10
We have klr 650, d650, drz 400, wr250r and a handful of others.
I just want something I can slab or backroad for an hour to go play off road. To be run on public property here, bikes have to be road legal and registered, insured. I don't want to have a dirt bike to put in the truck, drive it down to a motorcycle park, and then pay out the ass to ride. I just want to explore some more stuff than my road bike can.
A simple, indestructible thumper would be great, as I have no interest in high strung maintenance.
The drz400 and the two yammie 250s are looking like the best fits, but both have ridiculous prices on the market.
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cxa0897
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Post by cxa0897 on Nov 22, 2016 21:47:12 GMT 10
This is what we've got here, in terms of off reading.  Lots of sand, and if I head up north or west I can get more rocky/mountains/gravel |
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Post by Camo on Nov 23, 2016 7:29:18 GMT 10
We have klr 650, d650, drz 400, wr250r and a handful of others. I just want something I can slab or backroad for an hour to go play off road. To be run on public property here, bikes have to be road legal and registered, insured. I don't want to have a dirt bike to put in the truck, drive it down to a motorcycle park, and then pay out the ass to ride. I just want to explore some more stuff than my road bike can. A simple, indestructible thumper would be great, as I have no interest in high strung maintenance. The drz400 and the two yammie 250s are looking like the best fits, but both have ridiculous prices on the market. Post up a couple of links to places you'd buy bikes from and I'll have a look rather than do my real work lol! And what's your budget? |
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Post by cxa0897 on Nov 23, 2016 11:23:36 GMT 10
I don't really have a budget right now, but would've jumped on something if the price was right. Sub $1000 right...which doesn't look like it's gonna happen.
I've only come across one bike in that range and it was an '83. Once I can clear up some other bills I may find a 2 or 3k budget which opens up a lot of options
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Post by 97audia4 on Nov 28, 2016 5:27:44 GMT 10
We have klr 650, d650, drz 400, wr250r and a handful of others. I just want something I can slab or backroad for an hour to go play off road. To be run on public property here, bikes have to be road legal and registered, insured. I don't want to have a dirt bike to put in the truck, drive it down to a motorcycle park, and then pay out the ass to ride. I just want to explore some more stuff than my road bike can. A simple, indestructible thumper would be great, as I have no interest in high strung maintenance. The drz400 and the two yammie 250s are looking like the best fits, but both have ridiculous prices on the market. This checks all the boxes and is cheap.  cnj.craigslist.org/mcy/5891023530.html |
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Post by 97audia4 on Nov 28, 2016 5:30:42 GMT 10
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cxa0897
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Post by cxa0897 on Nov 28, 2016 6:40:55 GMT 10
We have klr 650, d650, drz 400, wr250r and a handful of others. I just want something I can slab or backroad for an hour to go play off road. To be run on public property here, bikes have to be road legal and registered, insured. I don't want to have a dirt bike to put in the truck, drive it down to a motorcycle park, and then pay out the ass to ride. I just want to explore some more stuff than my road bike can. A simple, indestructible thumper would be great, as I have no interest in high strung maintenance. The drz400 and the two yammie 250s are looking like the best fits, but both have ridiculous prices on the market. This checks all the boxes and is cheap. cnj.craigslist.org/mcy/5891023530.htmlI saw this guy this morning.....If i can get my wife (and her mother) to approve me keeping it at their house I might just low ball him and see where it gets me. |
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Post by Camo on Nov 28, 2016 15:32:55 GMT 10
Mate, that first one will be a winter project and cost you more than the purchase price.
You'll probably struggle to find good parts for it and end up with a Frankenstein mess of a thing.
You'd be far better off with the 2nd Honda as long as you don't mind learning the proper technique to kicking it to life.
Not sure what the deal is with that seat though?
The Xr650r's were the top of the lot when they were in their prime.
Bullet proof and capable.... would be a bike you could do everything with and outside of consumbles, find an aftermarket seat and you'd be done spending.
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Post by keach on Dec 3, 2016 16:59:57 GMT 10
I was looking for exactly what your wanting when I bought my wr250f. I was lucky to come across one that had a title and could be made road legal. I ride it about 2 miles to some local trails. I think I paid 2,200 for it about a year ago. It's a 2005. I love it and it have been very reliable, BUT if I had it to do over again I might go for a drz400. So much less maintance. I'm a lighter guy and not sure how much more maneuverable the 250 is vs the 400 in tighter stuff, so that could be my only hang up with the 400.
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Post by keach on Dec 3, 2016 17:01:56 GMT 10
This is what we've got here, in terms of off reading. Lots of sand, and if I head up north or west I can get more rocky/mountains/gravel I believe that is a part of wisconsins adventure trail. I am hoping to ride it sometime this spring or summer if I can find a friend to ride with me. |
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Post by Camo on Dec 5, 2016 17:52:04 GMT 10
I think I'm just gonna pony up next year and get a Gs1200 or a similar rig.
Got some great loops for the bigger rigs around here and i'd love to pack one up and ride/camp my way up the coast over a week.
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Post by fz8kansas on Dec 7, 2016 12:30:57 GMT 10
I was looking for exactly what your wanting when I bought my wr250f. I was lucky to come across one that had a title and could be made road legal. I ride it about 2 miles to some local trails. I think I paid 2,200 for it about a year ago. It's a 2005. I love it and it have been very reliable, BUT if I had it to do over again I might go for a drz400. So much less maintance. I'm a lighter guy and not sure how much more maneuverable the 250 is vs the 400 in tighter stuff, so that could be my only hang up with the 400. I spent a lot of time looking into the WR250 verses the DRZ. I think the WR is a slightly better bike than the DRZ. Yes the DRZ has a bigger motor but the quality of the suspension from the factory on the WR is a notch up. Yamaha makes a 300cc kit for the WR that adds a few ponies but makes a world of difference. Fuel injection verses Carb. I believe you found a simple change to the wiring to the ECU completely changes the programming. I have yet to ride either but after all my reading I think the WR would be a better choice for me. I am interested in the new Honda 250 adventure model. |
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Post by Camo on Dec 8, 2016 17:19:30 GMT 10
I was looking for exactly what your wanting when I bought my wr250f. I was lucky to come across one that had a title and could be made road legal. I ride it about 2 miles to some local trails. I think I paid 2,200 for it about a year ago. It's a 2005. I love it and it have been very reliable, BUT if I had it to do over again I might go for a drz400. So much less maintance. I'm a lighter guy and not sure how much more maneuverable the 250 is vs the 400 in tighter stuff, so that could be my only hang up with the 400. I spent a lot of time looking into the WR250 verses the DRZ. I think the WR is a slightly better bike than the DRZ. Yes the DRZ has a bigger motor but the quality of the suspension from the factory on the WR is a notch up. Yamaha makes a 300cc kit for the WR that adds a few ponies but makes a world of difference. Fuel injection verses Carb. I believe you found a simple change to the wiring to the ECU completely changes the programming. I have yet to ride either but after all my reading I think the WR would be a better choice for me. I am interested in the new Honda 250 adventure model. See here in Oz we have two completely different wr250's. We have the Wr250F that is an enduro bike or a bush weapon with number plate, lights and blinkers. Then we have a Wr250R, it's built for a more adventure/dual sport type deal. Alot of guys here are using them as the lightweight replacement for the Dr650. Sticking long range tanks, comfy seat, suspension mods and pannier racks for soft bags etc. I also hear they're very high revving. The all new for this year 250f is alot like the MX bike but road registerable. Both good bikes, just depends what you plan on doing with them. |
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Post by keach on Dec 12, 2016 12:10:11 GMT 10
I spent a lot of time looking into the WR250 verses the DRZ. I think the WR is a slightly better bike than the DRZ. Yes the DRZ has a bigger motor but the quality of the suspension from the factory on the WR is a notch up. Yamaha makes a 300cc kit for the WR that adds a few ponies but makes a world of difference. Fuel injection verses Carb. I believe you found a simple change to the wiring to the ECU completely changes the programming. I have yet to ride either but after all my reading I think the WR would be a better choice for me. I am interested in the new Honda 250 adventure model. See here in Oz we have two completely different wr250's. We have the Wr250F that is an enduro bike or a bush weapon with number plate, lights and blinkers. Then we have a Wr250R, it's built for a more adventure/dual sport type deal. Alot of guys here are using them as the lightweight replacement for the Dr650. Sticking long range tanks, comfy seat, suspension mods and pannier racks for soft bags etc. I also hear they're very high revving. The all new for this year 250f is alot like the MX bike but road registerable. Both good bikes, just depends what you plan on doing with them. We have both the F and X here too. The wr250f are not equipped with turn signals, break lights or license plate. The new ones are not street legal. I scored one with a title which is rare and added a light kit to make it road legal. The X has 6 gears which would be nice as mine (5) will do over 70mph with the free mods, but I wouldn't wanna ride very far at those speeds. The X also requires far less mainteance than the f which would be nice, but they are expensive as shit over here. I got my f for like 3200 and an X in similar condition could hardly be found and were more like twice what I paid. |
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Post by keach on Dec 12, 2016 12:17:31 GMT 10
I was looking for exactly what your wanting when I bought my wr250f. I was lucky to come across one that had a title and could be made road legal. I ride it about 2 miles to some local trails. I think I paid 2,200 for it about a year ago. It's a 2005. I love it and it have been very reliable, BUT if I had it to do over again I might go for a drz400. So much less maintance. I'm a lighter guy and not sure how much more maneuverable the 250 is vs the 400 in tighter stuff, so that could be my only hang up with the 400. I spent a lot of time looking into the WR250 verses the DRZ. I think the WR is a slightly better bike than the DRZ. Yes the DRZ has a bigger motor but the quality of the suspension from the factory on the WR is a notch up. Yamaha makes a 300cc kit for the WR that adds a few ponies but makes a world of difference. Fuel injection verses Carb. I believe you found a simple change to the wiring to the ECU completely changes the programming. I have yet to ride either but after all my reading I think the WR would be a better choice for me. I am interested in the new Honda 250 adventure model. Yeah the wr250r won't have the maintance schedule my wr250f has. I'm sure they are great bikes, I just couldn't justify spending the money for an r given how much I'll ride it and they are tough to find used in my area, olusbrhey hold their value so damn well. |
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